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On Endings and BeginningsPosted Saturday, November 8, 2008, at 5:45 PM
By Charlie Crow
November 8, 2008
No one said it would be easy
No one said it'd be this hard…
No one thought we'd come this far
Oh, and look we've come this far
--from "No One Said It Would Be Easy," by Sheryl Crow © 1993
It's been a few days since Barack Obama's remarkable election as the forty-fourth President of the United States, and a sense of wonderment and awe prevails. He actually did it--this tall, earnestly charming young Senator from Illinois--whose idealism and energetic advocacy of "change" overcame formidable competition in the primaries, doubts about a thin resume, his exotic background and his racial lineage--with a convincing victory over John McCain.
As I watched the election results unfold, I felt as if I was emerging into brilliant sunlight after an eight-year long crawl through a cold, dark tunnel. It was hard to believe, but one look at the unabashedly happy faces with tears streaming down in that colossal Chicago crowd (and similar shots from around the world)--of every race, age and costume-- was convincing proof. All I could say aloud was "WOW!" and privately wept my own tears of gratitude that I had lived long enough to witness the fall of this barrier.
Much will be written about Obama's stunning win. It was well planned and executed with rare discipline and adroitness. He carried himself well, was cool under fire, and the longer he campaigned, the greater voter confidence in him grew. Events such as the economic meltdown helped solidify his image as a leader. And, of course, his innovative use of the Internet for communicating with his supporters and for raising money from first-time donors and small contributors paid off like a slot machine.
A chapter has been closed in American political history, and a new page is being written. To say history has been made with the election of the first black President inadequately describes the significance of the moment. It is indeed worthy of celebration that a man of color was chosen as the nation's chief elected official--but a few of the post-election emails I received demonstrate how much deeper the emotional reaction to this memorable event go:
I would echo that last sentiment about my own Arkansas. But the rest of the story is that most American voters willingly looked past race (as we should have all along) and trusted their instincts to choose whom they felt was the right leader for the prevailing circumstances.
It was an amazing decision to spurn a legitimate war hero in time of war, but the country's doubts about that war prevailed. Weariness with an administration whose dismal track record got worse by the day and the dubious qualifications of 72-year-old McCain's choice of a running mate were prime factors. Yet, to dwell on those points to explain what happened discounts the fact that Obama's message of hope, optimism and call for unity and sacrifice resonated with a convincing majority of the voters.
Now comes the hard part. President Obama is but one man, who has to set the course the rest of us must follow. It will require herculean effort to sail the ship of state out of an ocean of red ink, away from two disastrous wars and to reverse the effects of neglect of our ailing schools, gaps in health care and aged infrastructure. In medical terms, our economy is almost in extremis, and the best minds are still wondering how to revive it.
It will take years to fix this mess. As in all times of crisis, members of Congress must set aside their partisan differences and work together, regardless of party. And we, the public, while offering our encouragement and constructive suggestions, must observe an extra measure of patience.
And while we are at it, the only thing worse than a sore loser is an arrogant winner. It is time to shed the harsh tone and petty "gotchas" of the final weeks of a heated campaign. The country has made a jump shift away from the fake conservatism that bloated the budget and outsourced our government. Now it is time for accountability, competent management and public servants who want to serve the public. Hopefully, we will return to the feeling that we can trust our government again.
Barack Obama has that rare powerful capacity to inspire young and old alike to look beyond self and serve the needs of others. My generation's idealistic dreams were shattered with the assassinations of John and Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr. Today, Obama's rise is built on renewed waves of hope and optimism for today's younger generations.
Godspeed, President Obama. Let us savor the momentous milestone that has been passed, and enter into this new challenging time with a positive outlook and rolled up sleeves.
Charlie Crow © November 8, 2008
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Charlie Crow has had long-standing ties to Rector since 1954, when his family moved here to publish the Clay County Democrat. He graduated from Rector High School in 1958. After earning degrees at Arkansas State University in Jonesboro and the University of Texas at Austin, and service as a US Army Intelligence officer, he pursued an eclectic career in management. He served in the cabinet of Governor Dale Bumpers. His career experience encompasses state and regional governmental planning, investment banking, executive leadership of recycling technology companies in Alabama and Tennessee, and nonprofit management. He is semi-retired and lives in Little Rock with his wife, Anne.
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All this fawning, gloating and donkey braying over a person who, so far, has only rendered promises, seems a bit premature.
Politically Incorrect, you sound bitter and sad... Maybe you should look at our situation today and be thankful and show some gratitude for what this means to many, many, many people of all races. And just to be clear President Elect Obama is calling for all of us to do our part, I mean really do our part to make this country whole and strong once again. Therefore, you and I and the rest of the country have a lot of work to do. May I suggest as one of the things we all can do is to seriously commit to when we purchase is to only buy American made Product and Services for 24 months and put our money back into the most wonderful commodity in the world... US let's invest in we the people for a while and everyone will be amazed to see how much money we have contributed to building our economy to be even stronger than it has ever been before. I am a realist and understand that we probably will not be able to purchase every product or service within the United States, but I also know in my heart and soul there are enough businesses within the United States that we can make a big dent in the failing economy. So instead of spending time being quite cynical... Join me in my commitment to do something to help our America. I am a single parent, veteran, former State of Texas Employee and currently own & operate 3 small business while pursuing a degree in Public Administration with a minor in Spanish. President -Elect Obama has requested for all of us to help, now the hard part begins... Will you join us
I am far from bitter or sad, I am a realist; and,no, I will not join you in promoting socialism, the vector of communism. Obama's handlers will try to keep him close to center and ruffle no feathers for the next four years with the hope of gaining a second term. That is when the worst of the liberal agenda will finish destroying our freedoms and ruining this once great nation. I feel sorry for your small businesses if Obama does win a second term. You will certainly need your Spanish speaking abilities then. :)
After darkness, light.
To __Politically Incorrect__:
Gloating? Hardly. Relieved? Absolutely.
The administration of George W. Bush has weakened the fabric of American society with its incompetent governance, abuse of executive power, erosion of personal rights, corrupt lobbyist-infested bureaucracy, a disastrous go-it-alone foreign policy, and a ten trillion-dollar debt burden that the children of our grandchildren will strain to repay.
It is a testament to the resilience of our country that we have survived such compounded maladministration.
Before they could run out the clock, Bush & Company's hands-off regulatory policies drove this country into the ditch, leaving the most severe economic recession since the Great Depression. Their trillion-dollar bailout of the banks and insurance companies is pure socialism, which makes your Obamaphobia quite ironic.
Mr. Obama will have his hands full, just trying to nurse the economy back to health, extracting us from a war we should never have entered, fixing the mess left on the White House doorstep and restoring our international standing. We'd do well to cut him some slack.
Charlie Crow
To Charlie Crow:
I am neither Democrat nor Republican.
Obama is a liberal; that tells me all I need to know about him. I know his administration will try another increment on gun control; they will promote the homosexual agenda, appoint liberal Supreme Court judges, and try to further undermine the Christian religion.
I am proud my state didn't vote the Politically Correct ticket. When our electricity, gas and groceries triple in price it will be difficult to find one person in Arkansas who voted for Obama.
I fear the coming years will be a masochist paradise.
Politically Incorrect,
I'm not convinced that a homosexuality agenda will be promoted, but what I do know is that three states have voted to ban same sex marriages. Unless a person uses an AK47 to kill a duck, deer, or other game...don't see too many restrictions on guns. My christian religion has taught me to have faith in God, not man...not feeling I'm being undermined. Further, electricity, gas, and groceries have been near triple for about a year and a half....nothing new there. I know at least 50 people in Arkansas who voted for Obama that are fine citizens of caucasion persuasion. I know that is not a lofty number, but that is Arkansas, the former land of opportunity and the current land of isolation. This is where I concur with "won't give up" ...we should move on do what we can for our country. However, I have good friends in metro areas that surely can learn from solid role models in Arkansas. I respect your honesty and convictions, but what are your thoughts about the last eight years. As an honest blogger, would you inform us on anything you might not agreed with regarding the Bush administration.
To Politically Incorrect:
It is astounding to me how you so freely scream socialism because President Elect Obama promises to demand that the super rich pay their fair share. It seems that when the wealthy are asked to pay their fair portion, you scream socialism; yet when the average American pays the bill, it is capitalism. None of you have complained for the past 35 years as the wealthy got wealthier from the sweat of the working man. Thirty five years ago CEO's made $35 for every $1 per worker; today they make $450 for every $1 per worker.
Here is how $863 billion of household income growth was divided among income groups during the first 4 years of the "Bush Recovery" from 2002-2006. The top 1% of households received $826 billion ($4.2 million per household). The next 9% (which would complete the top 10%), $195 billion ($14,651 per household). The bottom 90%, $41 billion ($304 per household).
I observed a small but revealing character trait that, to me, illustrates the difference between liberals and conservatives. Election night when McCain began to speak his concession speech, upon mentioning Barack Obama's name for the first time, the audience erupted into a chorus of "boos" and jeers to which McCain was compelled to quiet them. At Barack's victory speech, upon mentioning McCain for the first time, the audience respectfully began to applaud and cheer, to which President elect Obama encouraged them and added his own applause.
The majority of conservatives, especially their national spokespeople seem always bitter, mean-spirited, greedy, and fearful.
Would that they could see past their own selfish motives and work to help America through its problems.
Charlie,
I voted Republican and Obama is a Far Left Wing Liberal. But with that said, I am an American and as hard as it is to say..... It was time for a change. The next 4 years will not be fun for anyone,but the country will be better for it. God Bess America!
Mijo:
It appears you have put your faith in Obama for the next four years. I know not where you live, but my electricity is very cheap. I was also speaking how the prices of things will skyrocket before he is through if he carries out his liberal plans, not today's prices. By the way, two states have now made same sex marriage legal. Look what they are doing now to the Mormon Church because of its stand against them. They are also directing their hate against all religious citizens.
It is a fact that the liberals have tried to take our guns away for years, they do it incrementally.
George Soros, Ultra-liberal billionaire, is Obama's principal patron. You need to read about his hatred of this country and how he wants to "Change" it.
Here are some of his demands:
Legalize gay marriage and euthanasia, and make abortion more available. He funds groups that claim they are Catholics for choice.
Legalize illegal drugs, or at least reduce the penalties. Soros believes crack cocaine dealers are victims because powder cocaine sellers receive shorter prisoner sentences. They are typically white, while crack users are black, he says.
Give felons the right to vote and end the death penalty.
New rights for illegal aliens.
An end to U.S. global supremacy.
To Ann Stallcup:
The whole thrust of Obama's campaign has been to vilify the "evil rich", the corporations and those who have worked hard and succeeded. That's the historic class warfare between the proletariat and the bourgeois.
Obama's socialist agenda--which include energy controls, economic interventions, and the explosion of the nanny state:
Huge increases in payroll and income taxes;
Redistributionist "share the wealth" policies;
Repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act;
Forcing faith-based groups to hire gays;
Repeal all state regulations on abortion through FOCA;
Require taxpayer funding of abortion through Medicaid;
Block all efforts to "Drill Here, Drill Now" in America;
Impose universal health care through job-killing employer mandates;
Appoint activists liberal Supreme Court judges;
Kill conservative talk radio by re-instituting the "Fairness Doctrine";
Require comprehensive sex education from the earliest grades in public schools;
Enforce bilingual education in the public schools;
Take secret ballot voting away from workers deciding on whether to unionize...
Politically incorrect;
As usual you just address what you want and ignore the facts, fictionalizing your own along the way and borrowing from the likes of Fox TV. Trying to have an intelligent discussion with people like you is like talking to the wall. I don't talk to walls. Just for the record, simply because the things on your list do not meet with your approval does not mean that others might welcome some of the changes. It is not just your country.
A post script:
"The whole thrust of Obama's campaign has been to vilify the "evil rich", the corporations and those who have worked hard and succeeded. That's the historic class warfare between the proletariat and the bourgeois.
-- Posted by Politically Incorrect on Thu, Nov 13, 2008, at 11:30 AM"
Because one is rich does not necessarily equate with working hard and succeeding. Why conservatives continue to make this statement without being challenged is a puzzle to me.
ann, ann, ann.......i'm sure you are a very very fine person and fine american. but to be really honest, i feel you are talking to that wall with blinders on. politically incorrect simply layed out real points that are part of sen. o'bamas agenda. he showed and talked of this over and over. just like my best friend here that also voted for him, she has no idea why........i would like to know why people voted for him....maybe you have great reasons, which hopefully aren't the one's mentioned above. someone please make me a list as p.c. has done.
also, it really shows ones angle when i have found only one or two that does not put a first name or title on anyone on the rep. side of the fence, but always with sen. o'bama.
i for one hope his admin does a great job. but with my thinking if he does what he says he wants to do, it is very, very scary. we'll see when the written speaches are gone and the real person takes control. i think the people that will be mostly disappointed with him are the supporters that are wanting a payback. the lines are already growing.
as most history buffs know, socialist rulers were started promising everything to everyone. then came the big rallies of 100's of thousands of people. then came the silence of the press etc. does any of this seem like it could happen today? if you or anyone else aren't questioning this in the back of your mind, then that goes back to blinders.
did i vote for pres bush? yes.....do i think he kept us safe? yes.......do i disagree with him on his spending and his border control? yes....will you and charlie come down on sen. o'bama when he tries something you really know isn't right? i doubt it and that's sad.
o.k. i'm off my wagon now........ ;-)
rjb
Charlie, like many others who voted for Obama was sick and tired of the lousy job that President Bush did. Furthermore, we were always faithfully reminded of his pathetic presidency (thru the media, Hollywood, Movies, etc.) by those who now call on us to unite around their man. Lets all come together they say! Of course, this unifying effort will be greatly enhanced by Charlie's insinuation that those 58 million from around the country and our home-state of Arkansas voted for McCain because of racism. It couldn't possibly be because we're Republicans or because we loathe his socialism. Good start toward unifying the USA Charlie! But even in all of this, I hope Republicans show more respect for President Obama than the Democrats and Hollywood afforded President Bush. This country will fall sooner than later if such disrespect as Republicans held for Clinton and Democrats held for Bush continues. ROMANS 13 reminds us that all authorities are ordained by God and it is therefore incumbent upon all citizens to render to Caesar the things that are Caesars. I don't mind Obama's hue, I mind his philosophy, but I will honor and pray (though I may often disagree with his governance)for him as long as he is my president, for God's sake! - Roy Hargrave
very well stated there brother roy. i really don't understand how someone can put a party above their god or family. i have friends in rector that would vote for a dem ticket regardless of the views.
i think the lack of the mention of god on the reps side was a big factor in the outcome. also, i think mccain was just simply too decent of a man to go after o'bama like should have been done. i like you hope and pray for our new leader, but i'll keep one eye open while in prayer!
rjb
Your condescension is duly noted, arebyrd, arebyrd, arebyrd. Politically Incorrect did not "lay out real points that are part of Sen. Obama's agenda." Do the research. I would think that President elect Obama and Joe Biden would be the true source for information regarding their agenda not lies and half truths from unreliable, unqualified less than intelligent wanna-bees. I don't intend to replay the election. You need to quote reliable sources and stick to facts if you are going to try to present valid arguments.
ann,
i rechecked the list.....should we go over them one by one?? which one or one's do you not agree that is on his agenda? i can see a couple that are just liberal agenda, but most are out of his mouth, or from his voting record....you do know he was voted the most liberal senator in the senate don't you?....come on ann, venture off that cnn/msnbc stuff......ok......that was a joke!
ann, i think we could set down over a cup of coffee.......checking our party at the door..........and agree on more things than we disagree on........maybe even solve all world problems!!
rjb
RJB, methinks from experience that Ann would be an excellent choice as chairwoman of the Democratic party, so cease and desist if you know what's good for you. Remember they're just seeking reconciliation with us ignorant, Bible thumpin', dumb southern racists Republicans. They're right and they've got Hollywood to prove it. Nothing can compete with Shirley Mclain's opinion, seeing she has been on earth several times through reincarnation.
World problems are solved--the people have spoken.
Ann, that won't happen until the real Messiah comes back to earth.
Roy,
Good reminder on the Romans verse. There is some irony regarding the hollywood/bush points. It is my understanding that Oliver Stone (who directed "W") left Yale to serve his country in Vietnam, which was the same time "W" attended Yale. Anyway, I'm glad to hear that you are not personally mad at Barack Obama for winning the election and/or being a result of good timing in our fine country.
Arebyrd,
I respect your honesty by stating you voted for Bush and admitting that he made some decisions you did not agree with. But, he made decisions and I always will respect him for that. However, I never thought he was the brightest of fellows and after eight years one would think he could pronounce words correctly. That is what concerns me about the future of the Republican's party next presidential candidate. Who's next, the hillbilla from Wasilla?
PI,
I value your tenacity and cherish your predictability. Always prognosticating the future as well as marketing conservatism and absolutism. Please offer us more other than ideology stemming back from decades ago. Does getting in an arm wrestling contest over conservative verses liberal really help us to completely resolve the problems we face today? My faith belongs to God, but I've got to trust presidential elect Barack Hussein Obama to get things done. However, if he does not, I will not hesitate to vote for someone different in four years, but my vote will not be based on antiquated ideologic predispositions.
Mijo,
Thanks for your profound judgment in the way others pronounce words incorrectly. I'm privileged to be on the same board with such an erudite person. I also appreciate your kind spirit of humility in seeking conciliation among common citizens of the USA by warning us of the hillbilla from Wasilla. You need to write a book on the art of unifying the nation. Please send me a signed copy when your through with it. God bless the USA, or for some apparently, God bless half of it, who aren't racists, hillbilly, gun-toten, uneducated, ignoramus, Republicans. I hope your right about Obama because if we're right we are all in big trouble. Please excuse any grammatical errors, I'm not the brightest fellow.
Well Charlie I guess now I know the meaning of the old saying "Boy did you open up a can of worms".
To Mijo and Ann:
I owe you both an apology; I am truly sorry. I was under the influence of reason and common sense when I made my posts. I see, now, that was unfair.
However, here is some more ancient history: Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1809, "The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government."
If loving my race above other races makes me a racist, then I am one. An honest person of any race will tell you the same thing.
By the way, the white race makes up only 15% of the world population. If we were animals we'd be on the endangered list.
Good Morning Roy,
I trust that you understand that I'm not referring to any of the respective bloggers. Also, please accept my apologies in advance if I indirectly offended anyone (not my intention at all). I have no excuses for not thoroughly articulating my points, except I might have been in hurry on my last blog entry. Below is how I should have articulated my views:
1. People have to heal prior to unifying, and in my humble opinion, to heal, we should come to terms with the failures of the Bush presidency. My deepest respect goes out to Arebyrd since he admitted his disagreements. Further, the racial jokes do exist and that slows down the healing process. Just this Friday I was having a great conversation with an old friend in NE Arkansas until he started telling me racial jokes about Obama.
Even though I realized that he might have been reacting to the results of the election, the fact that he is a deacon at a Baptist church really concerned me.
2. The hillbilla remark was intended for awareness not to inflame, poor execution on my part. However , as a veteran and a citizen, in my humble opinion, I think we need someone to really challenge Obama in 2012 since it can only make our country better. I'm not convinced Ms. Palin can challenge Obama. What concerns me about Ms. Palin, similar to Bush, is that she seems unaware that she does not know some things. And I do need my leader whether if he/she is a teacher, city council member, Lt Col in my Army, or my president to speak intelligently and effectively represent.
3. The election is over and it was not a close contest. It surprises me how reactive Republicans have been after this election. Prior to the election, I did not hear anything from Republicans such as " hey don't vote for Obama" or "vote Republican." Instead, it has been after the election that I'm being heavily advised by the GOP. I wonder how many people who wanted to vote GOP did not register or even vote. McCain even said he was behind in the election.
4. I hope I am right about Obama, but only time will tell. Could any of us predicted eight years ago that young military members would return from Iraq with brain injuries with minimal medical means to help them or hundreds of citizens suffering in New Orleans needlessly through FEMA's mismanagement of a natural disaster?
Respectfully and Professionally,
mijo
Sherry,
Don't worry; Wes has taught me how to thread a hook with a worm.
PI,
I agree with the "under the influence" comment. Regarding your quote, tell it to George Bush because that has certainly not been the objective of his administration. As Charlie said, "The administration of George W. Bush has weakened the fabric of American society with its incompetent governance, abuse of executive power, erosion of personal rights, corrupt lobbyist-infested bureaucracy, a disastrous go-it-alone foreign policy, and a ten trillion-dollar debt burden that the children of our grandchildren will strain to repay." The only thing that he left out is the loss of so many innocent lives because of Bush and his buddies' willingness to lie to the American people about WMD's in order to promote a war which made them all rich.
Ann, I am not here to defend Bush, but since you added your quote, I will post this one: After 9/11, our economy posted more record Wall Street Gains than at any time in history, Middle-class income went up by an average of over 2,000 per family, and unemployment was lower than at anytime in the Clinton Administration. Further, and in spite of the media attempts to claim the opposite, Visa applications for citizenship in America increased every single year of the Bush administration. Then came the "Democrat Revolution" in 2006 and both congress and the senate were lost to the Dems. Two years later, the economy is in the toilet, unemployment is higher than any time for the past 15 years, and congress has a much lower rating than Bush.
Here is something every president needs to obey instead of just giving lip service to it: "I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States and will, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
I think any political office-holder who breaks that oath should be thrown out of office immediately. Of course, they haven't been to date.
PI:
According to FactCheck, a non-partisian organization, census figures show average family income went down $348.
For all families, median (which is mid-point) family income actually inched up under Bush by $272. When one speaks of average, one is combining all incomes to arrive at a middle point.
When the reports show that the average teacher salary is $55,000, they are including coaches and administrators' salaries. When one adds together a $100,000 administrator salary and a $50,000 teacher salary, one can say the average salary of teachers is $75,000 when no teacher makes $75,000; yet that is the method by which an average teacher salary is arrived. Add and divide the true middle class incomes then report their "growth" during Bush's administration.
AGAIN: Here is how $863 billion of household income growth was divided among income groups during the first 4 years of the "Bush Recovery" from 2002-2006. The top 1% of households received $826 billion ($4.2 million per household). The next 9% (which would complete the top 10%), $195 billion ($14,651 per household). The bottom 90%, $41 billion ($304 per household).
After 9/11 the GDP declined by $27.3 billion the last 3 months of 2001 and ALL of 2002. I am not wasting my time checking your other untrue "facts." I just know from now on that you do not quote reliable sources, so your information cannot be trusted.
You might be better served to read articles such as this http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/webfeatur...
from a non-partisan think tank like the Economic Policy Institute.
I'm sorry but what you are reporting is propaganda.
Yes, we could bore the world by exchanging data from different web sites.
However, my words on liberals are not from sites; they are things I know concerning their agenda, and Obama is a radical liberal. We had better hope someone holds him in check. If he isn't we will be addressing each other as Comrade.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined."--- Patrick Henry
PI:
No offense intended, but "you" versus nationally attributed scholars would be two different things. You say "you know," and I say you "don't know." Again I am perplexed by your quote. Bush has done more to deny us our personal liberty than any President in history. Luckily, the people used their "force" to try to preserve it.
ann,
i would like an honest opinion about your thoughts on the fanny mae ordeal. also, i would like your opinion of barney franks.
Arebyrd:
http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/fin...
A congressman serving on the Financial Services Committee who could have said even five years ago that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were "not facing any kind of financial crisis" is not what I would consider the brightest. Then again, neither are a large percentage of those we send to Washington.
thanks ann, i must say your answer is a supprise to me. and that's a good thing.........gosh, we do have hope!!!! ;-)
it just kills me talking to some of my rector friends that would vote for anything on the dem side regardless of the views or the background. actually that's what bothers me about o'bama, but that's another story.
anyone that has a reason for their vote or views "in my opinion" is not a truly bad thing. it just bothers me for some folk to vote a party line regardless.
Mijo,
Thanks for the explanation, but I would reserve judgment on Palin since over half the voters reserved judgment on a partial term Senator. And I must hasten to say that apparently you are under the false illusion that I liked McCain. He is another big government advocate in my opinion and his election would have further deteriorated the common principles of republicanism set forth by Reagan. Most who voted for him were voting against Obama as you are well aware. Furthermore, Bush is to be commended for keeping our country safe from further terrorists attacks for the past 7 years, but his fiscal policies were of the most absurd nature to the common good of the nation.
Since Thomas Jefferson has already been quoted, let me take a stab at some presently relative points from him:
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government
I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.
Power is not alluring to pure minds
Most bad government has grown out of too much government
What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?
Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread
I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious
Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have ... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases
Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now.
Hmm! Wonder if Jefferson saw into the future of America's obsession with Obamanism? - Roy Hargrave
Ann,
Why do you bring Bush's name up every time I post a quote? I have said before that I am neither Democrat nor Republican. I thought the quote was quite appropriate since we are speaking of politics.
You say I don't "know." I know as well as any of the scholars you choose to believe. I know from years of watching liberals, I know their agenda. I know if he is allowed to follow his plans that we will be lost. I know because I know a con when I see it. He has been groomed by swine like Soros and others who can't wait to end our freedoms. He said he was for change; look at those he has chosen so far to make up his cabinet, they are all liberals who were born in the congress and senate. The New World Order is just around the corner.
Those of European descent must become the minority in this country for that to happen. That is being accomplished. Our heritage will be just a fading memory. This nation will soon belong to the mongrels, and no one will stop it. Instead of a melting pot we will be a bedpan.
If I am proven wrong, I will admit it.
Excellent quotes,Razorback.
PI:
I bring up Bush's name because your real words speak louder than your protests. Your comments are absurd. That is my opinion.
i want the gov to "mostly" do two things. keep me protected and give me decent roads to travel on. when we get to where gov welfare is such a burden on the national budget that it could actually tumble the economy........we have a big problem. can we say......."welfare"?
when i'm talking about welfare, i don't only include non working lazy people with a gazillion kids. i'm including corp welfare. my opinion is the gov should stay out of building cars, housing, or even farming.
also, i guess i would add i have no problem with gov help for our older folk, and disable.
the gov does have it's job, it just should be a simple one.
rjb
RJB,
STOP making sense! This is political bantering, not reality.
HA! one can dream can he?
AS:
I feel the same way about your comments, so we are even there.
Here's another quote dedicated to liberals: "No nation can long survive without pride in its traditions." Winston Churchill.
Another: "Liberals try weapons; conservatives try killers." CB
HATE CRIME: Any member of the liberal media interviewing a conservative.
PI:
Regarding my comments: It was not I who called the President elect a "con"; it was not I who named George Soros a "swine"; it was not I who labeled certain Americans "mongrels"; it was not I who equaled myself with learned scholars, etc.
Your cohorts on this blog who sit idly by and allow your poison and hatred to spew forth unchallenged are just as guilty as are you. My comments do not even enter the realm of absurdity. Feel free to respond with any nonsense that you choose because I will not be responding to you.
AS:
I am responding. I did not think Arkansas is a bigger state than alaska, as you stated.
I did not label certain Amercians as mongrels, either. Soros is a dirty swine, and every politican is a con-man to a certain degree.
I was not aware I had any cohorts on this blog. I do not know anyone on this blog; others speak for themselves.
You are politically correct; I am Politically Incorrect, and that should tell everyone that I am not brainwashed by the liberal media. You have no right to tell me or anyone else what to say or what to think.
It does break my heart that you will not be responding.
Correcting my spelling mistakes.
I am responding. I did not think Arkansas is a bigger state than Alaska, as you stated.
I did not label certain Americans as mongrels, either. Soros is a dirty swine, and every politician is a con-man to a certain degree.
I was not aware I had any cohorts on this blog. I do not know anyone on this blog; others speak for themselves.
You are politically correct; I am Politically Incorrect, and that should tell everyone that I am not brainwashed by the liberal media. You have no right to tell me or anyone else what to say or what to think.
It does break my heart that you will not be responding.
Arkansas population 2,834,797
Alaska population 683,478
That does make it somewhat plainer. However, I would imagine the problems and solutions of governing a state would be the same regardless of the population. Just as governing a large family and a small family, the same basic rules apply.
Another quote:
"There is only one way to kill capitalism--by taxes, taxes and more taxes." ---Karl Marx.
And:
Ludwid Boerne said in 1832, "There is nothing to fear but fear."
F.D.R. added: "Itself."
Pax vobiscum